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caropop

Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 7997 Location: tejas
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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We also have less "serious" threads because there are so many more internet resources available now that focus more exclusively on those topics than there used to be. We have other places we can go to talk about feminism and sociology, etc, that are, I don't know, maybe more academic, more focused on those topics? So it just doesn't come up as much here because we glitter doesn't have to fulfill the same need as it used to when there were less of those other places. So it is more about us and our lives then about the world happening outside.
And I think one big thing to point to that is the lack of any discussion here of all the attacks on women's rights and women's health by our politicians. It's certainly not that we don't care, but we have other outlets to express our thoughts on that. _________________ country cookin' makes you good lookin'
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SlipperyShade

Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 2222 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Kelly. wrote: |
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| Kelly. wrote: |
| The other thing that I am really uncomfortable with is the fact that we have nearly 21,000 registered members, and only 1,200 of those have more than ten posts. While I understand this is the internet and that it is full of lurkers, I would really love to see the member list purged and cleared out. |
I think part of the issue with inactive posters (and spammers) is that Tsia is busy with real-life stuff and doesn't have time to deal with it personally. Maybe we need more volunteers? |
Totally understandable. I have zero technical skills, but maybe this is something that the mods are able to do (delete inactive posters)? |
This has always annoyed me for some reason? Also, I like the archives for some things, but a lot of the time it just becomes out of date and I forget to look there, or the search function just doesn't do it for me (I'm probably doing it wrong). I wish I could purge posts more efficiently on La Vida (I archive things that seem important and occasionally delete now-irrelevant, several-years-old threads) and that some really expired topics in other boards would go. There's just no fast way to do it. I think that purging old threads can help when there's not a ton of information within because not having all these old threads might make things seem more...fresh? I'm bad at expressing how I feel about this.
I also think a lot of it has to do with the age bracket and responsibilities - I know I don't come here as often (though I come here more with it set as my homepage, since I started using Chrome that doesn't apply, but it is up in my most visited sites still). FB et al. have definitely helped squash conversation here but I like keeping FB for being friends with people I've met IRL or people I just have a strong connection to. I am trying to be more conscious of my privacy and reduce my FB presence, so expanding it there doesn't help me.
I want G* to stay around. If it weren't for G* I never would have met my husband or be moving abroad, nor would I have anyone to whine to when I'm homesick and panicking about the whole thing. Please stay.
ETA: If I have any posts in the FB G* group, go ahead and purge those for me. I might rejoin, I just don't want my username here associated elsewhere.
ETA 2: I want more crafty articles on Glimmer. _________________ You can't be giving up sandwiches in the name of style. |
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pinkie
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 2574 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Where ya going, Glitter? |
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Are you planning on sticking around?
Oh heck yeah, I am, I wanna be 90 and checking in with this amazing community I found in my very early 20's. I wanna watch everybody change, see where we all go,
Is there some deal-breaker that would make you quit g* for good?
Not likely. I'm unoffendable.
Do you gather with glitteratti elsewhere?
Inky is sitting next to me right now, also looking at the yellow screen (apparently there's an awesome thread on parenting I need to look at) (btw she is such a bitch) I've hosted part of a glittercon, know most of the SF ladies and have meet up with the Knitty/LadyJane/Baby Maggie crew in Chicago. I'm fb friends with 50-something of you.
Do you feel g* has had its run and its on its way out?
Ugh, I think it's half that we're all old and busy and have partners and babies and half that glitter isn't an app on my phone. Lazy and busy, the downfall of all communities.
Did you, like me, not even realize that the end is nigh.
I knew it had slowed down. But dead? I think it might get smaller, those of us that are lifers will be here, those looking to get banned spectacularly will not be.
Do you have another community (online or IRL) that will (or already has) replaced g*.
Nope.
Will my marble magnets become a collectors item when g* is no more?
Not because G is gone, but because those are awesome magnets. _________________ You may have to sacrifice a bit of modesty in the name of badassery! -Knittykat |
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smokingmonkey
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 1592 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| caropop wrote: |
| And I think one big thing to point to that is the lack of any discussion here of all the attacks on women's rights and women's health by our politicians. It's certainly not that we don't care, but we have other outlets to express our thoughts on that. |
Can you share any of these? Because after my hiatus (due to technical issues, not any g* issues) I came back and was hoping for more political discussion. I haven't brought it up really because I wasn't sure if that just meant people were coming here as more of a refuge from that stuff.
My real world is very conservative and very male, and often super offensive in many ways, so this has always been a refuge for me. A place to refuel my beliefs and values (political, feminist, and crafy and all).
If g* went away, I don't know where I'd go for that. |
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puck

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 2608 Location: i'm not a hamster, but i am in washington
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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pssh, i'm not going anywhere.
my glittering ebbs and flows, often with drama (i tend to avoid it the best i can, a lot of the time), but i love the glitters so much.
i spend most of my glitter time constrained to the chartreuse board, because i can't do the username-to-real-name/other-pseudonym thing in my head, and i just get confused. i think i'm on the glitter rav group, but that's it - i don't like having folks i don't know as my facebook friends, and i just get... confused. when i don't remember who people are.
so i'm here. and sometimes i'm not. but i'm here mostly, reading if not posting. _________________ xoxpuck
"i'm a little bit pop-culture
and a lot bit d.i.y."
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caropop

Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 7997 Location: tejas
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| smokingmonkey wrote: |
| caropop wrote: |
| And I think one big thing to point to that is the lack of any discussion here of all the attacks on women's rights and women's health by our politicians. It's certainly not that we don't care, but we have other outlets to express our thoughts on that. |
Can you share any of these? Because after my hiatus (due to technical issues, not any g* issues) I came back and was hoping for more political discussion. I haven't brought it up really because I wasn't sure if that just meant people were coming here as more of a refuge from that stuff.
My real world is very conservative and very male, and often super offensive in many ways, so this has always been a refuge for me. A place to refuel my beliefs and values (political, feminist, and crafy and all).
If g* went away, I don't know where I'd go for that. |
Jezebel is the big one. Femisting, The Hairpin (to which I believe our own madge has contributed), Racialicious, Sociological Images. Those are the bigger websites that cover the kinds of topics we used to discuss more often here. I'm sure there are others, too. _________________ country cookin' makes you good lookin'
it's a blog! |
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smokingmonkey
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 1592 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| caropop wrote: |
| Jezebel is the big one. Femisting, The Hairpin (to which I believe our own madge has contributed), Racialicious, Sociological Images. Those are the bigger websites that cover the kinds of topics we used to discuss more often here. I'm sure there are others, too. |
Thank you! I do visit Jezebel, and forgot about Feministing, but the others are new to me.
Also, I don't think anyone has really responded yet, but I'd like to put my vote in for reactivating the g* FB group, if anyone else is interested. |
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crookedtree
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 1847
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Where ya going, Glitter? |
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This is a sort of jumbled, stream of consciousness post...
| pinkie wrote: |
| Ugh, I think it's half that we're all old and busy and have partners and babies and half that glitter isn't an app on my phone. |
I wonder if the phone thing isn't part of it. I don't need an app necessarily, but I'm sure a mobile version of the site would make folks more likely to post as more and more of us turn to smartphones for a lot of our web access.
I used to post more when I lived alone. Then I got roommates, then I got a partner. Also, a personality appeared here that always rubbed me the wrong way - not for any personal reasons, just a feeling - so I'm sure that kept me from hanging out here as often (that personality isn't around anymore, so don't worry - it's not you :-). Then I went through an internet privacy phase, purging much of my Facebook friends list and sticking mostly to fluffy topics here. I've stopped Glittering at work full stop. I did appreciate the locking of the grownup board, though I realize it's still not totally secure. I know folks talk about safe spaces a lot around here, but I have never felt that anywhere on the internet is a truly safe space.
I also tend to stay out of "blowout" conversations, even when I have an opinion, because I've never been central to any of them and it feels weird to me to chime in from the periphery.
I really like Glitter and it feels more valuable than Facebook, which I typically use just to post links to neat articles, follow the news feeds of my local museums, and look at photos of my nieces. Maybe I should post links to those neat articles on Glitter, too - perhaps they could start some discussions! I don't use Twitter and I go through phases with Ravelry.
I stopped posting as many craft photos because of sheer laziness. It's a pain to have to download the picture, upload it to Flickr, find the link, and upload it here, especially compared to the Ravelry system (I know it's not ACTUALLY a big deal, but, like I said, I'm just lazy about it). I should really commit to posting one thing a month or something, and to commenting on others' crafts instead of just looking every week. Because really, that's what brought me here in the first place.
Figwit, I've been trying this year to examine my food choices and live a more sustainable lifestyle, and I sometimes think of you during this process. I don't really know much about your parenting - as a childfree person I tend to not visit the parenting board very much - but your other lifestyle choices have had an influence and I respect them.
I hope Glitter doesn't go away! I may have more to say later. _________________ "I tried watching downton abby. mistake. switched to ru paul's drag race." - Lacey Marie |
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LooseyMama

Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 5541 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Goddamnit, I was just writing a lovely, long-ass litany of so many people who've posted in this thread who I love so much, and then I accidentally pushed Command-Q (to quit!) instead of Command-A to select all and start re-reading it from the top to see what I needed to add! And now I've got to wrangle my boys to bedtime (they've been stretching bedtime wayyyy late lately and I need to nip this in the bud!), and then I owe my freelance client a good three hours' writing tonight, so the chances of my being able to reconstruct it tonight are pretty damned slim.
Suffice it to say that I lovve this place because I love so many of you who've inhabited it for so long with me AND because I'm thrilled to death with a few of you who're new enough that I have no picture in my head of what you look like, but who I really, really want to get to know as well as I know my other favorites.
I'm going to put this laptop down nowo and take care of my responsibilities, then I'll try to come back and write more ... maybe tomorrow.
But hell no, I'm not going away, and like ... Aliwa, was it? ... the recent brouhaha actually makes me want to post *more* rather than disappear. And I'm so, so glad to have read five pages tonight of others saying more or less the same thing.
{{{{{{{big, booby-squishing hugs to all of you}}}}}}} _________________ "Struggle is obsolete." -- my friend Barbara |
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pinkie
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 2574 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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{{{{{{{big, booby-squishing hugs to all of you}}}}}}} |
Dirty! _________________ You may have to sacrifice a bit of modesty in the name of badassery! -Knittykat
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pinkie
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 2574 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| pinkie wrote: |
| LooseyMama wrote: |
{{{{{{{big, booby-squishing hugs to all of you}}}}}}} |
Dirty! |
Sorry, me being lame* and inappropriate is a hallmark of old school g*.
*edited to say. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I'm so not perfect. _________________ You may have to sacrifice a bit of modesty in the name of badassery! -Knittykat |
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LooseyMama

Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 5541 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Pinkie, you KNOW I was thinking of you and your boobies, particularly! ;) _________________ "Struggle is obsolete." -- my friend Barbara |
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underage_elf

Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 45 Location: out west
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| tinyrock wrote: |
| And new people have quit joining - the default assumption seems to be that new posters are spam (because they usually are). Maybe a note in How to Glitter for new posters would be good? or something? Posters are always going to drift away, the question is how to ensure a reasonable stream of new folks. I think the "stagnant pond" metaphor from another thread is relevant here. |
I'm a "new poster", even though you guys have been my Imaginary Crafty Friends for 5 or 6 years. I'd be seriously bummed out if g* wasn't at the other end of the internets! The thing, though, about having such a great core group of members, people who've been around and active for 10+ years, is that it can be pretty intimidating for new people to jump into the mix. Well, let me amend that to speak for myself; I have felt hesitant to jump into the mix. Part of that has to do with concerns over privacy, part has to do with feeling like the new kid in school, and honestly, part of it is recognizing that I'm living a life of extreme privelege and am wary of saying the wrong thing, or coming across as insensitive or ignorant to other people's life situations. Making an inadvertantly boneheaded comment feels risky when I have less than a dozen posts backing up what kind of person I am. Paradoxically, blow-ups like this recent one make me more nervous about posting, but at the same time increase my interest in being part of this dynamic, passionate community of divergent personalities. _________________ Say YES!! to awesome. |
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shortskirt

Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 956 Location: Canadia
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Pinkie for president!
Also, I'd like to add to marble magnets: t-shirt undies, knitted neckers, beef showers, fetching wrist warmers, punk rock quilting, Sublime Stitching, ATCs, and breaking all the rules with our bare hands. |
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IrmaVep

Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 4712 Location: Never far from my sewing machine
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Posted: Mar 21, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Do we need an "Introduce yourself here!" Sticky thread on La Vida? Would that make it a little more welcoming to new posters maybe? I know a few other sites I've been to have that.
Also, in addition to everything else pinkie has done for our community, she made me blue cheese scones. I will NEVER EVER forget those scones (I think I ate most of everyone else's share too). |
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