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glitter

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 507 Location: Beacon NY
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Posted: Dec 28, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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anyone who tried to help "mod" on the grown up board thread did so out of the goodness of their hearts. there are no mods on that board- purposefully, although that might need to change.
i thought the nasty LJ posts towards PS were unbelievable and i cant take anything that those posters have to say as being constructive here.
not only do i spend personal time trying to keep these board smooth running but the mods esp. PS do it without any compensation whatsoever. To give PS grief on top is...i dont have a word for it.
i agree, i doubt that the people who are so ready to come out with snark and complaints will be willing to air their greivences in a constructive way here.
if i play favorites on the boards-as i have been accused - its towards the mods who work so hard here (inc senor coconut when she did it, so i find this whole episode disheartening). if you have a problem with the boards you should offer to mod. - put your money where your mouth is.
finally, every holdiay there is a blow out on the boards here. people get very bluesy during the season. considering i think this place is a pretty nice place. i see these eruptions as being blips.
thanks for your work PS _________________ Thanks
Tsia
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Meraonthewall Guest
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Posted: Dec 28, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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This is what I was talking about. I don't know if this post was directed at me or not, but I don't have any problem with anyone at all, I was just observing the way it was handled and stating that I thought it could have been handled more effectively. I don't know too much about glitter to comment about how it usually is or how the mods or if there's favortism or anything like that. I am also one who stays away from the drama, and I remember looking at that thread when it was just one or two posts and somehow I can always tell when there's gonna be something and I stay away.
I was not stating that there's anything wrong with glitter. But I think there was something wrong with that thread. I do not doubt that the mods work very hard and probably get quite frustrated and that was why some of the rude comments were made, and like it has been said so many times it's hard to know someone's tone through type, but what I'm suggesting is maybe there is a way to handle something like that without it getting so far out of hand, like maybe not adding to the thread and rather only responding to the whole of the community in a non-biased way, and doing the more specific regulating via pm's.
I love glitter, it has been my haven for the 3 months since I found it, and I've seen another forum that I loved dearly been torn to shit because of blow-ups like this, and it happens there all the time now, I and most of the people that spent so much time there for years never go there anymore. I would hate for that to happen to glitter. It saddens me to see people that I've just started to get to know delete their accounts and it saddens me to see a place with so many beneficial things on it have it's entire flow and mood disrupted because of a blow up like that.
Now I'm thinking that maybe it was just the tone of that (as I assumed the tone would be) really bothered me about that post and that is what I kept seeing over and over on that thread. Once again I have nothing against anyone, I was just trying to say what I think could help turn this situation into something positive. And while it may be beneficial to you PS to have a thread like this, I think that if there were people on this thread that did feel negatively about you that this thread would turn into a mean thread as well. And sounds like something that would be better handled in pm's. I think disagreements and discussions are great for diversity and learning and understanding each other, but in contrast being mean is just not helpful, I don't care who has the better insults.
Once again, I didn't say that I had any problem with these boards, just with that thread specifically. But if you need a mod I would have no problem doing that. I understand that you are spending your personal time trying to maintain this board and that it is a very active forum and I really appreciate that and the other mods and I had no intentions to insult anyone or suggest otherwise. |
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PS

Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 3833 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Dec 28, 2005 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| agnes wrote: |
| Yes, I think that's important to remember. It seems to be a very small percentage of the people here who get participate in the drama. And it's such a small part of what goes on here, compared to all the crafty goodness and ladyfriend-ship. |
You know, you're right about this (all of you who made this point.) And for dragging you all into this, I apologize.
I've been told repeatedly that there are dozens of glitterati who have a problem with the mission statement, etc. I read many, many comments from people agreeing that I suck. And then I had it explained to me that after my participation in writing "How to Glitter," I backed down from my principals. I don't want to be hearing this again in 3 months, so that is why I asked to discuss it with the people who have a problem.
The offer still stands.
I just want to say that I really appreciate everyones kind words. They have really meant a lot to me. I do still *heart* glitter. very much. _________________ Shop Tangle online!
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glitter

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 507 Location: Beacon NY
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Meraonthewall- if you think the post i made was towards you- it tota lly wasnt sorry. _________________ Thanks
Tsia
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honeybee

Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 3042 Location: appalachia
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| I love glitter, it has been my haven for the 3 months since I found it, and I've seen another forum that I loved dearly been torn to shit because of blow-ups like this, and it happens there all the time now, I and most of the people that spent so much time there for years never go there anymore. I would hate for that to happen to glitter. |
I've only been around for almost 2 years here, and this DOES happen, every few months it seems. But new members like yourself come along and glitter remains a wonderful place for those that are willing to put the effort in to make glitter the awesome, unique place that it still is. You get what you give, and if someone puts in snark and negativity and bullshit over and over, than that's what their experience is going to be. But overall, as has been stated, I'd guess that 99% or more of the members here don't play those games or have learned to just not post when they feel the urge to snark. And for them, glitter still rocks. _________________ *honeybee.etsy * |
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SoAndSo
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 873
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I've been turning this around in my brain for awhile now.
Why are you doing this to yourself? Of course people have "problems" with you. People have problems with everyone. Anyone who takes a public position in controversial threads get snarked about in other people's off-glitter space. Even if you don't, if you've been here long enough and/or make enough of a presence for yourself, someone, somewhere, will say something hurtful about you. I've snarked about people on livejournal. I'm not proud of it by any means, but there you go. I'm sure I've been snarked about in return.
You say that people have critisized you for your participation in writing the mission statement. There are 3289 registered members of glitter. 2219 of them have had at least one post. That's a lot of people you're trying to please. You're not going to "settle" anything with anyone with this thread. No one is going to publicly stand up and gripe about you to your face, especially in light of the ungodly mess boiling over on the Grown Up boards.
I saw what was posted on senor coconut's lj. I didn't see the photoshopped picture rivercat mentioned, but I saw the comments. You were called an ass kisser. When you read that, did you think "OMG, I AM an ass kisser!" or did you think "hey, I've put a lot of time and effort into keeping this board up and running. I put a lot of time and effort into the mission statement and How to Glitter rules. Fuck them." If you're secure in your actions and morals, then screw what a couple of people on the internet say. There were three or four people in that LJ who made snarky and/or nasty comments about you. Followed by 3 pages of posts here by people who say they adore you. Why do the opinions of people who don't like you matter more than the opinions of people that do like you?
If I have any critisizm of you, PS, it's that you can be really sensitive. And that's a really good thing. It shows that you have a lot of character. But times like these, you can't make the world a shiny happy place where everyone loves each other and deals with their issues constructively. You do the best you can, and if there are people who don't accept that, roll your eyes and keep on walking. They're not worth this. |
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honeybee

Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 3042 Location: appalachia
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone who takes a public position in controversial threads get snarked about in other people's off-glitter space. |
I've snarked about people, too, but I don't think that it's necessary, or particularly mature, to do so. And I don't see WHY taking a public position on a controversial thread should automatically be followed by being snarked about. Again, is it really necessary to keep defending snark when it crosses the line to getting unnecessarily personal about someone?? _________________ *honeybee.etsy * |
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SoAndSo
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 873
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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I'm not defending snark.
I'm saying there's absolutely nothing you can do about it, especially when it occurs in someone else's off-glitter space. |
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ad_ho

Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 1718 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Drama!
But, you know I <3 you PS.
Now, reading this thread made something very clear to me. Ovaries needs a cool slang name. Guys have testicles, aka balls. Overies needs something clever, too! _________________ If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would get done. |
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Sleepyhouse
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 7936
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| ad_ho wrote: |
| Overies needs something clever, too! |
Egg crates? |
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VoodooToaster

Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 4424 Location: Chicago
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VoodooToaster

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veganfairy

Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 3602 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Dec 29, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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PS, I just want to say that I admire your big, brass balls for starting this thread :)
(Sorry if that's offensive ;) _________________ Words
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