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| How do you pronounce the final syllable in "Madeline?" |
| Rhymes with "nine." |
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| Rhymes with "gin." |
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cmightym
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 Posted: Apr 24, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: Madeline Pronunciation Poll |
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hey! answer this!
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Aryn
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I think both are acceptable but I would default to the second option.
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Crumb
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
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"In an old cottage in Paris that was covered in vines
Lived twelve little girls in two straight lines...
The smallest one was Madeline."
Unless the person in question prefers the other pronunciation, I think of "-ine" version by default. |
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LooseyMama
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Crumb wrote: |
"In an old cottage in Paris that was covered in vines
Lived twelve little girls in two straight lines...
The smallest one was Madeline."
Unless the person in question prefers the other pronunciation, I think of "-ine" version by default. |
Me, too.
And this allows me to tell the story of a best friend from college who went to live (and marry) in Paris a few years later. When her daughter Madeline was born, her Parisian husband went out immediately after, and came back with the French pastry of the same name ... NOT the naming reference my friend had chosen! She, too, grew up with Bemelman's book. (And, book lover that I have always been, *I* didn't know about the book series until I was in college. I guess because the idea of a girls' boarding school was about as foreign to rural-born me as a school on Mars!)
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town hall
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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What about rhymes-with-lane? I think my default pronunciation is somewhere between that and rhymes-with-gin. (I am not N American.)
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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As I have to tell people all the time:
Caroline and Carolyn are two different names. One of them is my name, one is not.
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cmightym
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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As I have to tell people all the time:
Caroline and Carolyn are two different names. One of them is my name, one is not. |
second question: how irritating is this on a scale of 1 (not) and 10 (murderous rage)? let's just pretend that a... um... friend was considering madeline-rhymes-with-nine as a name for her unborn daughter. how advisable/unadvisable is it to sentence that kid to a lifetime of correcting people on her name? hypothetically?
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Fritz
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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I think a 0. No one knows how to say/pronounce my first or last name. You just deal with it.
I voted "gin", which is how I think of it, unless I focus too hard. I am N. American, but grew up with zero knowledge of the book (No, I'm not sure how). |
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meexie
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| town hall wrote: |
| What about rhymes-with-lane? I think my default pronunciation is somewhere between that and rhymes-with-gin. (I am not N American.) |
Mine is similar: mad-eh-lehn, rhymes with Ben.
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caropop
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| cmightym wrote: |
| caropop wrote: |
As I have to tell people all the time:
Caroline and Carolyn are two different names. One of them is my name, one is not. |
second question: how irritating is this on a scale of 1 (not) and 10 (murderous rage)? let's just pretend that a... um... friend was considering madeline-rhymes-with-nine as a name for her unborn daughter. how advisable/unadvisable is it to sentence that kid to a lifetime of correcting people on her name? hypothetically?
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It varies, depending on who it's coming from.
For instance:
Contact I meet once and never see again: 1
Person I see occasionally, friend of a friend, non-routine business associate: 3
Professional contact that I deal with regularly who I’ve met many times, communicate with frequently but don’t see/talk to everyday: 6
The above person, if they actually spell my name Carolyn in emails or letter: 8
Friends, who should know better and somehow don’t manage to get it: 9
The above, when they’re a friend that I can tease mercilessly about it when they’ve been told and somehow don’t manage to change the habit: 3
Direct co-worker or other frequent contact: 8.
The above if they’ve been corrected more than once: 10. Show some respect, people.
I have no problem correcting someone that I’ve just met or someone I’ve met a few times. It gets trickier if it’s someone that I communicate with more frequently because you don’t want to make someone feel dumb about it, but it does get annoying. It’s hard to interject somewhere: “Hey, you’ve known me for months and you don’t get my name right!” I’ve learned through time that it’s important to correct people early on in your relationship with them, whatever the relationship is.
I don’t know how it would work with the name Madeline, but this is also a regional problem. Here in Texas, I get called Carolyn probably more often than Caroline. But living in Louisiana and Georgia, people got it correct more often than not.
There are plenty of times when it just slides off my back. And sometimes when I want to put my foot down and say that I won’t answer because they’re not actually talking to me, clearly.
I have to run but can share more thoughts later.
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| how advisable/unadvisable is it to sentence that kid to a lifetime of correcting people on her name? hypothetically? |
I saddled my poor child with Miette, which is a French noun (pronounced "Me-yet"). She will never, ever find anything with her name on it at Disneyland. (Not even Disneyland Paris, as I doubt there's a strong call for Mickey ears that say "Crumb" on them.) No one pronounces it right when reading it for the first time; we've heard "Mighty," "Me-yeti" (probably the most common), "Mittie," "Minette" (WTF, there's no N in there), "My-etta." Just about every mis-pronunciation you can think of. No one has ever gotten it right on the first try, not once in five and a half years.
The very first thing everyone says when they hear it is, "How do you spell that?" If they like it, they say, "Oh, that's pretty!" If they don't like it, they say, "That's...different." This reaction, too, has not varied in five and a half years.
So, what I'm saying is, I'm totally guilty of the weird-name-life-sentence. I think Madeline is lovely, and that it sounds FABULOUS with Olivia. |
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PurpleDoor
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I vote "gin". Despite having read the Madeline books frequently as a kid.
As far as pronunciation and naming your kid goes, I have a name that has several alternative spellings, but the pronunciation for them is theoretically all the same (i.e., NOT a Caroline vs. Carolyn kind of deal, more of a Sara vs. Sarah situation). People still mess it up--I had a teacher once insist that I was saying my name incorrectly, it gets misspelled all the time, etc.
Basically, no matter what you name your kid, people will eff it up. I wouldn't worry about it too much. |
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crookedtree
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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I've always pronounced it "-in" except when reading the book, when I pronounce it "-ine."
(But really I am just replying to this thread to make sure everyone has seen Werner Herzog Reads Madeline.)
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sibee
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| Posted: Apr 24, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa. I was reading this when "Madeline and Nine" came up on my iTunes. Creeeeepy.
And for the record, if I read "madeline" without context, it rhymes with "gin".
I, too, have spent a lifetime correcting people on how to pronounce my name. It's "Corin" and is pronounced phonetically "cor-rin" (and usually, the same as if it were spelled "Corrinne"), but rarely does that happen without correction. The first few times, I'll give them a pass, but I'm with caropop: if I see you on a daily basis, you hear my name repeatedly, and you still pronounce it incorrectly, it is supremely annoying.
I won't even start with my long, originally-Czech-but-changed-at-Ellis-Island mess of a last name. All I have to say is if you put a "V" in the middle of a name, people's brains melt.
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